In episode 2 of the Easy Nourished Dwelling podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@MarthaMcKinnon), hosts Martha Mckinnon and Peter Morrison talk about the theme “You’re Not Damaged, You’re Human.” They discover the affect of atmosphere on consuming habits, share private experiences, and emphasize the significance of mindset within the weight reduction journey. The dialog is enriched by insights from the ebook ‘Senseless Consuming,’ which highlights how our environment affect our meals decisions and behaviors. The hosts encourage listeners to embrace their humanity and perceive that errors are a part of the educational course of.
Key Takeaways
- You aren’t damaged, you might be human.
- Senseless Consuming was a transformative ebook for me.
- Your mindset performs a vital function in your journey.
- Re-engineering your atmosphere might help with consuming habits.
- Meals is extra accessible now than ever earlier than.
- Understanding your atmosphere can result in higher decisions.
- Errors are simply suggestions, not failures.
- You need to begin the place you might be in your journey.
- It’s necessary to benefit from the strategy of cooking and consuming.
- Mindfulness might help you’re taking cost of your consuming.
You Are Not Damaged, You Are Human – Podcast 002
Video Transcript
Martha McKinnon (00:00)
Hello, welcome to the Easy Nourish Dwelling podcast. I’m Martha and that is my brother and associate, Peter. Hello, the way you doing?
Peter Morrison (00:06)
Hey. Hello. Good, how are you doing right now?
Martha McKinnon (00:12)
Good, very well. So our subject for right now is, you’re not damaged, you’re human. And that actually, that consciousness got here to me years in the past within the ebook, Senseless Consuming, that you just’ll hear me speaking about loads as a result of it actually was life altering for me. However earlier than we get into the subject right now, what’s new and good in your world?
Peter Morrison (00:35)
I made a extremely good soup final night time.
Martha Mckinnon (00:38)
Inform us extra. I I like to know what persons are consuming.
Peter Morrison (00:40)
Properly, yeah, as a result of generally engaged on easy nourished residing, cooking will be difficult as a result of we check recipes, now we have to {photograph}, generally I like cooking only for the pleasure of cooking (affiliate hyperlink). Properly, I really like the work we do, generally it looks like work and generally the enjoyment isn’t there once I’m cooking.
So yesterday I used to be simply enjoying and I had a bundle of butternut squash. I’ve just lately found that it’s very easy to roast within the air fryer, which I’ve finished a few occasions. However I actually wished soup as a result of it’s been chilly right here. So I roasted a bundle of butternut squash. I don’t know. It was possibly round 16 ounces or so. Roasted that.
Martha McKinnon (01:28)
So once you say a bundle of butternut squash, it’s already like peeled and chopped. Yeah.
Peter Morrison (01:32)
Yeah, yeah, like a plastic container already chopped and peeled from Dealer Joe’s. What did I take advantage of? I used herb de Provence and just a few sea salt and a little bit little bit of oil roasted that for about 20 minutes within the air hearth actually fast. And whereas that was cooking, I used to be performing some, some work really. After which when that was finished.
Martha McKinnon (01:49)
Mm-hmm.
Peter Morrison (01:55)
I blended it with a little bit rooster broth as a result of I wished a kind of creamy soup, I didn’t desire a chunky soup. I sort of wished a smoother soup, though it ended up being chunky, however I’ll get to that in a minute. And I had some mild coconut milk. And so I used to be going for sort of a Thai Asiany sort of style. And I had some pink Thai chili paste. So after I blended it and bought the…
Martha McKinnon (02:08)I really like cooking. I really like cooking.
Peter Morrison (02:27)
the squash all clean, added it to a big sauce pan, added the coconut milk, after which I had some leftover rotisserie rooster. And I simply was having enjoyable with the spices, , including, the Thai chili, after which I added some ginger, I added some nutmeg, it was simply actually enjoyable. After which I wished a little bit extra veg in it. And I had a bundle of inexperienced beans. So I simply chopped up or really simply broke them aside into inch lengthy items and threw in some inexperienced beans.
Martha McKinnon (02:40)
huh.
Peter Morrison (02:52)
So it did find yourself sort of being chunky, but it surely was like that creamy, coconutty Thai with the squash. It was actually good and we had a pleasant little bottle of pink wine with it. So it’s a recipe I feel might be good for the web site. And, and I’ll sooner or later work on quantities of elements and spices.
Martha McKinnon (02:52)
Yeah. Ooh, Mm-hmm. Perfecting it in quantities and all the main points you want once you’re going to share the recipe. that’s cool.
Peter Morrison (03:21)
Proper. But it surely was enjoyable simply not fascinated by footage and quantities and simply simply having enjoyable.
Martha McKinnon (03:27)
Proper. It kind of will get you within the move. There’s some cool quote I learn just lately about that. Whenever you’re within the move state, there’s no nervousness. You’re simply you’re in a extremely you’re simply in a extremely cool spot, .
Peter Morrison (03:31)
Yeah. And I simply was going with my style within the second as a result of I had in my thoughts what I used to be in search of, however I didn’t actually understand how I used to be going to get there. So I used to be tasting because it was heating and I simply kind of went with it, yeah. In order that was enjoyable.
Martha McKinnon (03:53)
Yeah. Sounds yummy. Cool. Properly, that’s nice.
Peter Morrison (04:01)
What about you? What’s going good for you this week?
Martha McKinnon (04:03)
Properly, as , on Sunday, we despatched out an announcement that we had been going to be beginning this podcast, that we had this intention round beginning this. And we requested for options from our readers. And I’ve been sort of blown away by simply the variety of responses and the standard and simply the attention-grabbing questions and options that got here forth. And so I haven’t been capable of learn all of them but, however we’ve began a spreadsheet as to simply seize all these nice concepts. I don’t have any expectations round this as we’ve talked about it we sort of determined that is one thing we wished to strive, sort of like we tried the web site, so I didn’t actually have any expectations about what the response can be or what the sorts of questions or concepts or options would possibly come forth. So I’m simply actually pleasantly stunned by all that.
Peter Morrison (04:42)
Mm-hmm. And what I discovered attention-grabbing as I used to be scanning the feedback and suggestions was how various the response was. And there wasn’t quite a lot of overlap. There weren’t lots of people saying the identical factor. It was a variety of matters and concepts and options.
Martha McKinnon (05:05)
There wasn’t. And I feel that’s actually cool as a result of, , we generally sit right here in a bubble and now we have concepts about what can be useful, however by no means may now we have provide you with, proper? All of these, that number of concepts. So, thanks everyone who took the time to submit a suggestion. We’re actually appreciative of that.
Peter Morrison (05:24)
Proper. And if at any time throughout any of those movies you do have an concept or suggestion, please be at liberty to drop it beneath within the feedback and we’ll add it to our record.
Martha McKinnon (05:41)
Yeah, completely. Completely. that is now podcast quantity two. Yeah. So we’re a good distance from feeling comfy doing this, however we’re simply going to maintain plodding alongside. As a result of this entire expertise is absolutely analogous to me to the entire weight reduction journey. And we’ve talked loads about you simply can’t wait on your circumstance to be good. I imply, once you need to transfer one thing ahead once you need to accomplish one thing, it’s important to simply sort of begin the place you might be, proper? Use what you could have and simply do what you may. And that’s how we make errors and, and, proper, and understand that there isn’t any mistake, proper? There’s no failure, actually, there’s simply suggestions, we’re going to discover ways to do that, identical to the load loss journey. And it’s like, once you actually change your focus that method, as an alternative of getting or not it’s feeling overwhelmed.
Peter Morrison (06:14)
Mm-hmm. Make errors, study from them.
Martha McKinnon (06:35)
It’s simply sort of an experiment. And once you change your focus and you modify the best way you take a look at it, it may possibly actually begin to grow to be, I feel, sort of enjoyable, proper? And loads much less overwhelming relying on the way you spin it. So, yeah.
Peter Morrison (06:48)
Positively. So that you’re not damaged. Inform me extra.
Martha McKinnon (06:51)
Proper, so I feel you’ve in all probability heard me discuss loads about, and there a number of posts, and we’ll discuss extra about senseless consuming.
Peter Morrison (06:59)
Which I haven’t learn but, however I hope that is possibly one video collection we’d have the ability to do.
Martha McKinnon (07:05)
Yeah, possibly like kind of a ebook membership as a result of there’s a collection of posts that I did years in the past on the web site the place I attempted to attempt to do this sort of digital sort of ebook membership. It has been so life-changing for me. It comes up up up many times and once more. And all of us have completely different aha moments. You recognize, lots of people could learn it, however quite a lot of the suggestions I went again in preparation for this and checked out that put up week one of many problem and there are quite a lot of feedback. It was finished again in like 2017, and there are quite a lot of actually good feedback on there about how individuals had been following alongside and studying it and having those self same sort of ah-has.
Peter Morrison (07:35)
Wow. And do I bear in mind appropriately? That’s one thing you probably did within the summertime.
Martha McKinnon (07:46)
I did, yeah, so the story behind that was we flip again in 2017. We had been residing a portion of the yr. We had been residing the winter and spring and fall in Phoenix. After which we for the summer season we had been going to northern Wisconsin. And once more, by the point I did the problem, I imply, a few years had handed. However I used to be attending Weight Watchers, however I used to be over aim by like seven or eight kilos and simply nothing was actually taking place. I felt like I used to be following the plan. I felt like I used to be doing what I wanted to do and I felt fairly caught. My chief at that time, I imply, as a result of the aim was one thing I set again once I was 28 years outdated and as a lifetime Weight Watcher, , I used to be nonetheless kind of in a wholesome vary and she or he’s like, effectively, you could have the you could have the flexibility to simply change your aim weight. You are able to do it as soon as, guess, in line with this system. And he or she’s like, , possibly it’s time to consider that. I used to be feeling good. You recognize, it was simply, , once I was within the wholesome vary, it was identical to, the a part of me wished to simply get again to that aim. And so I made a decision to take off the summer season as a result of we had been going to northern Wisconsin, the place the closest Weight Watchers assembly was going to be like an hour away. And that wasn’t going to occur.
Peter Morrison (08:57)
Hmm.
Martha McKinnon (08:59)
So I simply determined to take the summer season off from Weight Watchers and I occurred to learn this ebook and the ebook was referred to as senseless consuming why you eat greater than you assume. Now for years I had seen that ebook and I simply was like resentful of the title as a result of I used to be like in fact I do know in fact I’m not senseless, in fact I understand how a lot I’m consuming. You recognize why I’m not consuming greater than I feel however anyway it took me a number of years and I lastly learn the ebook and it was identical to ha ha ha ha it was simply it was a light-weight bulb, watershed second for me and I simply I discovered myself laughing out loud. I imply it’s a really attention-grabbing ebook.
The experiments and research which were finished to show the truth that we’re senseless over how a lot we eat. I imply it was simply plain. However the ebook principally begins off by saying you’re not damaged, you’re human. And right here’s all of the experiments and listed here are all the explanations for that to be true. And so I simply actually actually really feel strongly about sharing that with individuals as a result of I feel so many people beat ourselves up over, the load administration side of our lives and we really feel like we’re damaged. For me, the surplus weight began fairly younger, know, third, fourth grade on and so it at all times felt like this battle and wrestle and I felt dangerous for no matter cause.
And so once I realized that I wasn’t damaged, I used to be human, it was like my goodness I imply it took all this stress away and and it made it made it enjoyable as a result of what he factors out is the truth that as people by means of by means of my gosh by means of the centuries by means of millennia we had been designed for survival to be on the see-food weight-reduction plan. Primarily see meals proper not seafood.
Peter Morrison (10:20)
Mmm.
Martha McKinnon (10:41)
As a result of the world, the atmosphere was very a lot unpredictable. And generally meals was plentiful and generally meals was scarce. So, proper. Yeah. So that you needed to eat up when the meals was out there and plentiful. So all your biology is designed, to eat up once you see meals, once you’re within the presence of meals, since you simply don’t understand how lengthy earlier than your subsequent meal. Now quick ahead, proper to the environment now, proper.
Peter Morrison (10:45)
Mm-hmm. All proper.
Martha McKinnon (11:11)
And I’m speaking in regards to the atmosphere. I’m speaking about an atmosphere, proper? Within the developed world, in the US, I’m not speaking about locations the place meals shortage is actual. And there are elements of the world the place that’s nonetheless true. However right here in the US the place we stay, we’ve by no means recognized, proper? Personally, I imply, meals, rising up within the seventies and eighties, imply, meals has simply been plentiful. Then, and you consider how way more out there it’s.
Peter Morrison (11:12)
Meals is all over the place!
Martha McKinnon (11:36)
The foundations even again within the 70s, proper? And the supply was method lower than it’s now. I imply, it’s all over the place and you’ll have it instantly, proper? You’ve bought Uber Eats, DoorDash, you’ve bought the microwave (affiliate hyperlink). I imply, what’s the delay? Like you consider what the delay was between I’m feeling hungry, like, , even 100 years in the past between I’m hungry, proper?
Peter Morrison (11:47)
Mm hmm. Door to ash Uber eats. Yeah.
Martha McKinnon (12:04)
Let’s work out what to eat versus now. I imply, I’ve this facsimile of the Fanny Farmer Cookbook, the early like I feel it was 1898 model of that. And once you open the cookbook, the primary 4 or 5 pages are all about find out how to mild your wooden range. You recognize, assume proper earlier than electrical energy, what did it take to fireplace up the range?
Peter Morrison (12:24)
My goodness.
Martha Mckinnon (12:31)
However then first you needed to then go get the wooden for the range and what it took to how far-off would possibly your grocery retailer have been if there was a grocery retailer? In all probability not even. When you consider that, the delay and the supply versus now, how far are you away from having that I’m hungry second to having the ability to fulfill it? Seconds.
Peter Morrison (12:38)
Proper, in all probability not even. Between drive-throughs and fuel stations and grocery shops.
Martha McKinnon (12:57)
Yeah, proper. And so, so what he mentioned to me simply was like, and the entire examples he gave was like, my gosh. He’s a he was a professor at varied universities, and ran all of those experiments. And he was simply fascinated by meals and well being and weight and the advertising and marketing and the way it all interrelated.
And he simply did all of those research and experiments demonstrating how the environment can affect us in ways in which we don’t even understand. You recognize, the scale of the bowls, the scale of the packaging, the menu descriptions, , how we’re simply influenced, the variety of individuals we’re consuming with. He simply goes on and on with all of those examples.
And by doing that, he actually helps present the entire methods that you could engineer as a result of his his tenant was that, yeah, when you can grow to be actually aware, and that’s one other strategy to take higher cost of what you’re consuming and the way a lot you’re consuming. However in a distractible, busy world, that may be actually tough. So he got here up with what he referred to as this senseless consuming method, he referred to as it the senseless margin and the truth that he mentioned it was simpler to he says it’s simpler to re engineer your atmosphere than it’s to alter your thoughts.
And so, and that’s what I began doing. In order that summer season, I simply began enjoying with all of those options by way of getting meals out of view, like out of sight, out of thoughts, which was extremely highly effective. Creating little obstacles and roadblocks for making the true tempting meals much less out there. And my gosh.
Peter Morrison (14:37)
Did it work?
Martha McKinnon (14:39)
So my story is, once more, I used to be taking the summer season off, so I didn’t weigh, I simply performed, and I instituted all of those guidelines that I discovered. I got here again within the fall, and I went to my assembly, and I used to be again, I used to be underneath aim. In a method that felt enjoyable and unstressful.
Peter Morrison (14:53)
Wow. So that you didn’t really feel disadvantaged?
Martha McKinnon (15:02)
No, no. And once more, I feel that’s what we’re going to wish to speak about loads right here as a result of I actually imagine that your mindset is simply such a giant a part of this. It truly is a thoughts, physique, spirit sort of journey. What I’ve come to see too is all of it is determined by the way you’re one thing, whether or not or not you are feeling disadvantaged or not. You recognize, I don’t know if we’ve talked. I feel I’ve talked with you about this earlier than, however possibly not, the place we’ve recorded it.
However for years like typically we exit with mother, we’ve made it a convention to exit with mother a minimum of as soon as every week generally extra. And I typically, particularly residing in Phoenix the place the local weather is absolutely sort of scorching, and I’d be out at lunch however I’d need to come house and be ok with no power hunch and I’ve simply discovered that very nice salads finished with like grilled protein and stuff are simply one thing that I really like and that actually work for me. I typically would select that as a result of that’s actually what I wished they usually made me blissful. I used to be by no means sitting there considering I don’t need this salad. I want I used to be having the burger and fries. If I wished the burger and fries, I’d let myself have it.
However my mother, I heard mother like afterwards say I simply I simply don’t even perceive how one can exit week after week and simply get the salad. So she was seeing it by means of a completely completely different lens, , the place I used to be completely blissful and she or he’s like, , you’re by no means, you’re by no means not on a weight-reduction plan. And it’s like, I don’t really feel like I’m on a weight-reduction plan. I really feel like I’m residing my life in a method that actually, actually works for me the place there have been occasions prior to now the place I did really feel like I used to be on a weight-reduction plan and I did really feel like I used to be disadvantaged.
And so like your mindset and like that summer season of the senseless consuming factor, was enjoyable to simply kind of play and experiment and say, I ponder what’s going to occur. And I imply, one of many massive issues for me was the scale of your dishes. I don’t even assume we understand how necessary it’s by way of feeling happy.
Peter Morrison (16:55)
Mm-hmm.
Martha McKinnon (17:07)
Like when you take a cup of cereal, which is a typical serving proper of a cereal and you set it in a humongous bowl.
Peter Morrison (17:13)
It doesn’t appear like quite a lot of meals.
Martha McKinnon (17:14)
It appears pitiful. It appears pitiful. You take a look at it you say, I’m going to starve to loss of life, proper? That may’t be sufficient. However when you put it in and generally it’s important to exit now and discover smaller bowls, as a result of along with our meals being tremendous sized, like our dishes are tremendous sized. So the bowls that are available a set of dishes are too massive. You bought to exit and pay extra, , for a smaller bowl, which I did.
Peter Morrison (17:19)
Mm-hmm.
Martha McKinnon (17:40)
However you set a cup of, cereal in an inexpensive sized bowl and you set some fruit on prime and you set some milk on it and it appears beneficiant. And so all of these issues he talks about within the ebook, the truth that when you attempt to free pour a serving of cereal into a type of big bowls, guess what you’re going to do? Yeah, you’re going to pour in like two or three servings. o he provides you all these nice examples. And so it grew to become enjoyable and playful.
Peter Morrison (17:59)
Over poor.
Martha McKinnon (18:07)
And I proceed to include what I discovered from studying that ebook into my life. And it’s been actually magical. And I nonetheless must name upon it and remind myself, as a result of I’ll get in conditions the place you go to any person’s home for dinner and there’s a bunch of appetizers out.
Peter Morrison (18:24)
Mm-hmm.
Martha McKinnon (18:25)
And I discover myself like overindulging as a result of it’s there. a part of me would possibly need to say, Martha, you don’t have any self-control. After which I remind myself, you’re human. And once you’re standing right here in entrance of meals, don’t be stunned, , if you wish to eat it, since you’re going to have to remain actually aware and current and evoke willpower, proper? With a view to restrict your self. And so once more, you may, there are strategies, proper?
For managing that and saying, effectively, I’m going to get myself a little bit plate, proper? And I’ll put the meals on it and I’ll go take pleasure in it and I’ll stroll away after which I’ll step away from the place all of these apps are out and I’ll go have dialog, , till dinner. And so once more, it simply feels extra easeful to realize it’s not me. I’m doing what any human being is gonna do on this circumstance. I’m not damaged.
Peter Morrison (19:14)
Mm.
Martha McKinnon (19:19)
And so I simply need to share that with individuals and assist them perceive as a result of I actually assume that may enable you on this journey and once you begin to simply actually take a look at the atmosphere exterior of you and perceive the entire methods it’s influencing you. I used to be eternally an enormous fan of the Meals Community and I don’t actually watch the Meals Community anymore I imply, you’ll sit there and also you’ll watch and also you’ll be uncovered to those issues.
And instantly you’ll be like, I would like that. I would like that. I’m hungry. The place that got here from the surface. If I actually step again and test, effectively, are you actually, are you actually hungry? Or are you simply salivating since you’re seeing it? Proper. And oftentimes you simply begin salivating as a result of that’s what you’re designed to do once you see it. Whenever you’re out, , on the mall and also you odor it, , instantly you’re like,
Peter Morrison (19:43)
I’m hungry. Mm-hmm.
Martha McKinnon (20:10)
I would like that the place you’re you’re being influenced from the surface and the and the extra you understand that the extra you may simply sort of step again and simply say I can take cost right here. And one of many big issues I recommend to everyone is simply actually check out and we are able to discuss extra about this we are able to produce other classes the place we simply discuss extra about how will you actually take a look at your atmosphere or your areas proper if we are able to actually kind of take a look at our areas, the environment and say, how can I set this as much as be useful for me? How, if I go searching, is it dangerous for me? You’ll be able to simply change, imply, you will get to the place you need to get to in a a lot simpler, a lot gentler, much less anxious method. And the identical together with your habits.
Peter Morrison (20:50)
Properly, I’m positively, though I don’t have any direct want or instant want, would say that the ebook sounds actually attention-grabbing. And I feel we should always positively put it on the schedule as a result of it sounds prefer it may stir some attention-grabbing concepts
Martha McKinnon (21:03)
Yeah. I feel so.
And I bear in mind, it’s possible you’ll not bear in mind this, however we had a telephone dialog. I don’t know. I feel you had been, you had been up and also you needed to, I feel you had taken Neil for an appointment and also you had been in search of a spot away from that appointment website for us to speak. And the place that was instructed to you was like a donut store, I feel, or a bakery. Keep in mind that? See, all these items stick with me as a result of I at all times consider them by way of senseless consuming, however you had been like, no, that’s not the place I need to go sit. Proper. As a result of I’m, if I sit in a donut store, it’s okay to have, I’m not saying you may’t have a donut, however I feel you need to be having the donut since you actually need the donut, not simply because it’s there. Proper. And I’ll simply share yet another story that’s coming into my thoughts at this second. Mother had a buddy, again in Phoenix who had a daughter who.
Peter Morrison (21:49)
Proper,
Martha McKinnon (21:58)
was struggling along with her weight and Patty was attempting to assist, , her daughter set, , some boundaries. And I used to be having a dialog along with her sooner or later and she or he had a job the place she labored in, she labored in a bookstore, I feel that was adjoining to love an ice cream sweet store. And it was the expectation that, I imply, daily, this younger one that was attempting to rein herself in, however basically she was taking her lunch within the sweet store ice cream store. And I’m like, that’s like, that’s like a level of problem. I imply, I take into consideration that’s only a, that’s a level of problem that you just simply don’t need to topic your self to. You recognize, when you’re actually desirous to be form to your self, , when you’re attempting to surrender consuming, you’re not going to be hanging out with your folks on the bar.
Peter Morrison (22:28)
Hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Martha McKinnon (22:49)
You’re going to search out some other place to hang around the place the temptation isn’t there. And when you’re attempting to eat much less sugar, in an excellent world, you’re not going to be sitting within the sweet store consuming your sandwich as a result of, my gosh, the temptation is throughout you.
So there you could have it. You’re not damaged. You’re human. And that is what people do. And once you see it that method, however the environment is damaged. You recognize, the environment actually now’s designed to lead to what we’re seeing. You recognize, we’ve bought a giant drawback with, obese and, our our bodies, our biology hasn’t modified that a lot.
However the environment certain has. And when you simply begin wanting on the atmosphere and also you take a look at a few of the choices on the eating places, know, the truth that, my gosh, , a few of these meals can have a full days price of energy in like one meal.
Peter Morrison (23:43)
Yeah, some portion sizes at some eating places is unimaginable for a single meal, not household type,
Martha McKinnon (23:47)
Proper. So all of these issues, proper. Proper. So we are able to discuss increasingly about every kind of options which can be made in senseless consuming to assist handle these conditions so that you could really feel extra in cost and extra in management and you’ll understand, , what’s taking place and stop it. So I feel it’s only a actual highly effective shift in your considering.
Peter Morrison (24:11)
Properly, nice. I feel that’s an exquisite concept. Very useful.
Martha McKinnon (24:17)
Alright, effectively thanks for tuning in and once more when you’ve got any concepts for different matters you prefer to explored, please depart them within the feedback beneath. And please, please, when you’re concerned with studying extra, subscribe to our channel.
Peter Morrison (24:32)
Thanks.
Martha Mckinnon (24:33)
Thanks.
