That is the transcript of an interview hosted on Ruth’s Really feel Higher. Reside Free. podcast.
Ruth Soukup: What if I informed you that regardless of the way you’re feeling proper now or what well being points you could be battling, there’s one mineral you might begin taking that might make you’re feeling noticeably higher inside simply someday. Sounds nearly too good to be true. Doesn’t it?
That’s what I assumed too, till I spent a while speaking to as we speak’s podcast visitor, Dr. Carolyn Dean.
Dr. Dean is among the nation’s foremost specialists in magnesium and the influence it will possibly have in your well being. And I obtained to let you know what she has to share is fairly compelling. And the perfect half is it’s fairly easy.
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In the present day we’re going to be chatting with Dr. Carolyn Dean, who’s a doctor and naturopathic doctor. In addition to one of many nation’s main specialists in magnesium and the writer of the brand new ebook, Magnesium: The Lacking Hyperlink to Whole Well being. And as we speak she’s sharing some particulars in regards to the influence magnesium can have in your well being as together with why so many people are magnesium poor and the steps you can take to right away begin feeling higher.
Like I mentioned, it’s fairly compelling. So with out additional ado, I’m very excited to have the ability to introduce you to as we speak’s podcast visitor, Dr. Carolyn Dean. Carolyn, thanks a lot for being right here as we speak. I’m so excited to speak to you.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Thanks. Thanks, Ruth. I’ve been watching, not watching, listening to your podcast and also you’ve been interviewed fairly just a few occasions by my pal, Michael Sandler.
In order that was enjoyable. Effectively, anyway, I’m simply leaping in.
I’m a medical physician and a naturopath. However I feel I’m a naturopath at coronary heart. I did my medical coaching first and They didn’t dissuade me from wanting to assist individuals with way of life and simply extra optimistic considering, non-drugs.
And that was again within the mid 70s once I went to med college. And there actually wasn’t that a lot details about alternate options. There was no well being meals retailer. Within the metropolis the place I did my medical coaching, which was Halifax, Nova Scotia. So I wasn’t deterred by what I discovered in med college, though it was all drug oriented they usually laughed at me trigger I made my very own yogurt they usually laughed at me once I was, puncturing an apple with acupuncture needles, as a result of that was my elective.
I discovered an anesthesiologist within the hospital, a Chinese language gentleman, who was doing an acupuncture clinic after hours. So he mentioned to me as soon as, yeah, you understand, I do all this medical stuff and type of, you understand, intrude with individuals through the day, however then I make up for it once I do my acupuncture. So I had lots of help in staying with alternate options after which in my observe, it was, as I mentioned, I observe as a medical physician, however principally doing naturopathic medication.
I sincerely thought by now, all medical doctors can be doing nutrient based mostly medication, however they sadly they went to the darkish facet. Critically, much more.
Ruth: Effectively, it surprises me to speak to listen to you say you went to medical college within the seventies and it was already very a lot based mostly on remedy and prescriptions and simply not likely any alternate options even again as a result of that’s—you understand, 70s weren’t that just lately and but now you’re proper. It’s gotten full. It’s gotten utterly worse and like actually dangerous.
Dr. Dean I keep in mind one in all my clinicians saying solely give a drugs so long as it takes the affected person to get again on their ft.
And now we’ve obtained these lifelong medicines for diabetes, for ldl cholesterol, for you title it. So it’s gone very medical and all of the unintended effects from all these medication. I imply, there are tons of of them. And worst of all is in my world, as a result of I’m an professional on magnesium. They deplete magnesium.
A variety of these medication are simply inbuilt such a means. A variety of them have fluoride molecules hooked up to them to make them simpler to get throughout fats cell membranes. Our cell membranes are product of fats and these medication get by way of, however. Within the intestines, these medication will be damaged down by the intestinal micro organism they usually’ll launch this fluoride.
So then we’re poisoned and the fluoride it can bind I feel primarily to magnesium as a result of magnesium could be very reactive. I don’t know that for certain. There’s no research. Nobody’s this. It’s my conjecture that when, as a result of chemically, magnesium will bind to fluoride, you get an MgF2, and that compound known as phthalate deposits in tendons and joints and ligaments.
And what’s the black field warning on ciprofloxacin, which is a fluoride drug? It’s tendon rupture. Folks will take, lots of athletes will take Cipro. They’re giving it, Oh, I’ve obtained a chilly. I’ve obtained a sport developing, you understand, give me a drug. They take Cipro and generally it’s on one, you understand, one prescription.
Typically it’s cumulative they usually find yourself with tendon rupture. And we see that. I imply, I’m certain you’ve had purchasers who’ve had tendon rupture and it might be from as A fluoride drug. So anyway, the medication usually are not good. Yeah. So what we do is attempt to use nutrient constructing blocks in order that the physique is powerful in order that it will possibly get well from sickness or damage.
I had a horrible fall just a few months in the past. I crashed on my elbow and my knee didn’t break a factor. I swelled. Folks thought footage of my arm or my leg as a result of it was so swollen. And also you get well. I’m 75. I ought to have damaged many bones. And it’s a testomony to how I dwell my life and my vitamins that I didn’t.
And that’s what I need individuals to be taught. That there are constructing blocks they usually’re the fundamentals. , they’re your nutritional vitamins. A, B, C, D, E, what else? After which your minerals. And like I mentioned I’m I’m actually keen on magnesium. And what I’ve accomplished with the mineral world is created a picometer sized, stabilized, ionic type, Of all of the minerals I work with in order that they’re instantly absorbed into the cells.
They don’t run out within the bowels or the urine. So the physique will get what it wants and it doesn’t should be excessive dose. So that you get your magnesium, your calcium, after all, however in our world, we have now an excessive amount of calcium. Girls are informed to take calcium dietary supplements to guard their bones, however they’re not informed about calcium.
Or about magnesium and boron and molybdenum, all of the totally different minerals that go to make the bone and collagen. And meaning vitamin C. Complete meals, vitamin C and ascorbic acid. If you would like your ligaments and tissue in your physique generally, you want your collagen. I imply, as we age, what gravity does to us is magnified if we don’t have sufficient collagen.
So there’s all, they’re simply fundamental constructing blocks, however see what I’ve found is and I’ve written it on this ebook, I’ve 65 medical situations that may actually be magnesium deficiency. And if we don’t deal with them with magnesium, then we give medication after which the medication make us worse. So we’ve gotten into this horrible bind and proper now I’m not, as you’ve heard, I haven’t talked about any model names of my merchandise that the FDA received’t let me say that my formulation will help individuals deal with or stop illness.
We rely on podcasts like yours for us to get the data on the market for individuals to know that. , with magnesium deficiency, you may have acid reflux disease, you may have Alzheimer’s and angina and atherosclerosis and anxiousness. I imply, take a look at the anxiousness in our world. Nervousness and panic assaults and even despair.
And I’ve heard your story. I do know what you’ve gone by way of. And if I may have solely had you and, you understand, soaked you in Epsom salt and gave you magnesium and, you understand, some B nutritional vitamins for certain, you’ll have , had an additional stage of coping so that you simply didn’t should face what you face. So there are mind results with vitamins.
And as a substitute of giving the vitamins, the minerals and the, you understand, the easy nutritional vitamins and omega 3 fatty acids, and naturally, vitamin D. Then we’re confronted with signs that then we both take medication for, or we take an entire host of herbs and, you understand, no matter, ashwagandhi and herbs that, in the event that they’re not natural.
They’re not secure to take.
Ruth: Can I interrupt you for only a second and we will perhaps again up a little bit bit as a result of I really feel like we, we talked about lots of issues unexpectedly. And I, so I’d like to interrupt it down just a bit extra methodically for people who find themselves listening, who for who that is like all model new data, proper?
So let’s identical to perceive and begin with a little bit bit like, of like how, so that you went to medical college and also you had been considering like pure different strategies from the very starting, or was there one thing that occurred in your individual, by way of your individual expertise that basically obtained you keen about type of following down this path?
As a result of it’s totally different than what they’re educating in medical colleges. And apparently even again within the Nineteen Seventies, and in addition it’s totally different from the norms. So what was it that type of obtained you eager to even go down like a distinct, take a distinct method?
Dr. Dean I assume I used to be simply curious once I was in my teenagers and my then boyfriend, now husband of 58 years, we started touring and from Dartmouth, Halifax, Nova Scotia, we ended up in California through the hippie days and we weren’t hippie, hippies, we weren’t druggies, however there was a diet revolution, Adele Davis, Pavarola, Jonathan Wright.
They usually had just a few books and the individuals we had been staying with had a library. So I spent my time in that library and on the conventions with these authentic well being specialists. And so I simply caught the bug. And I discovered as a lot as I may, however what occurred is once I tried to move on the data, individuals weren’t that .
So lastly, once I was in honors biology in college, some youngsters, younger boys, males I knew in my lessons, they simply obtained into medical college. So I mentioned, nicely, that’s for me. And I entered into the following semester. I simply occurred to have all of the conditions. So I went into medication with the thought that, hey, you understand, perhaps individuals received’t hearken to me if I’ve a medical diploma.
However as I already mentioned, you understand, that I imply, I used to be form of castigated as a result of I spoke pure issues. I might say, nicely, I simply learn this paper that breast milk is best than bottled milk. And the pediatrician who was lecturing up on the entrance of the room, he known as me bubbles. He mentioned, nicely, you understand, it’s possible you’ll suppose.
The science is behind us. So, you understand, there you go. So that you’ll like this Ruth. It’s not on level, however it was so patriarchal and misogynistic or no matter phrases you need to say in med college. My class out of 100 was the primary class that had greater than 25 girls, 33 girls. So we took, after all we took over the primary day of faculty, a clinician got here in and put up his slide.
It was a slide projector in the back of the theater and he was down entrance. The primary slide was a nude feminine slide. The second slide was a brand new feminine. The third slide was a nude feminine. In order that’s the way it was being taught. And no one knew one another within the class and other people, you understand, we had been type of. Trying round.
I did greater than regarded round. I went out and get a microbiology professor pal of mine who had a depraved humorousness. And he was within the med college realm. And I obtained a playgirl journal. It was in all probability the primary version in 1975. And I took out the male nude footage and he made slides. So two days later, when Buddy got here again To proceed his superior lecture.
We had the nude male slides within the entrance of his deck by the second slide, he had grabbed his little briefcase and ran out. I heard later that from my microbiology pal. In a single day, they took down each nude feminine image that was littered all through anatomy and biology.
They took every part down. In order that’s direct motion. That’s not standing on a picket line and whining and complaining. It’s doing one thing.
Ruth: So you’re a trailblazer. Yeah, you’re a trailblazer. I like it. Okay. So now let’s discuss a little bit bit extra in regards to the minerals and the nutritional vitamins and these items that proper.
The pharmaceutical firms don’t need us to speak about as a result of they need us to take the remedy. And now, such as you identified, they need us to be taking medicines for the remainder of our lives. They don’t, I imply, that’s the entire purpose, proper. Is to get us not simply taking the medication to take the medication for so long as they’ll probably get us to take them, ideally for all times.
Okay. As a result of that’s how they take advantage of cash, however you’re saying we really must ensure that we’re, if we simply can get the suitable nutritional vitamins and minerals to really permit our physique to perform correctly. So what would you say are among the most necessary issues that girls over 40 have to be centered on?
And the way do you even know the place to start? Prefer it feels it’s, it will possibly really feel so overwhelming. So how do you want, like, what are type of the fundamentals?
Dr. Dean We begin saying to individuals, I’m, and I say, we, on my own and my customer support, and I’ve a radio present, on-line radio present each Monday. And the message we put out is the worst is over since you’re right here.
And what we begin with is magnesium and magnesium is important for 80 p.c of recognized metabolic capabilities within the physique. All of the enzymes, every part from head to foot. Magnesium is important to make muscle tissue and nerves work. And the way they do that may be a nerve cell or muscle cell shall be opened up. The cell mineral ion channel shall be opened as much as permit a little bit little bit of calcium into the cell.
To permit it to fireplace off and create the motion potential. After which, so, when that’s taking place, the cell is closed down, after which magnesium opens the cell up. And the calcium comes out. When you don’t have magnesium for this perform, the cells type of get floppy and the calcium simply drives itself in inflicting twitching and spasms and burning and irritation and tightness and mind fog, and we have now 600 muscle tissue.
We have now 45 miles of nerves. So any of that may be affected, you understand, the attention twitching that I used. I’m a magnesium deficiency particular person, you understand, poster little one. So I had the attention twitching and, you understand, swallowing issues, coronary heart palpitations, leg cramps, Charlie horse, stressed legs. Tight shoulders, insomnia, complications, all of these are signs of even migraines.
Happily, I didn’t have migraines. So all these signs of the nerves and muscle tissue. And then you definitely get to the metabolic enzymes that magnesium works with. And that might be the digestion. You understand how our insulin is delivered to assist the glucose get into cells. simply how ldl cholesterol is made. The gene statin, the ldl cholesterol suppressing medication, they work on the identical enzyme that magnesium balances.
So statins will kill this, they, HMG CoA reductase. It’ll kill it. Whereas magnesium, if the physique wants extra calcium, it can manipulate the enzyme. If it wants much less, sorry, ldl cholesterol. If it wants extra ldl cholesterol, it can manipulate the enzyme and vice versa. So we’ve obtained a means for the physique to do issues correctly.
So, and your subsequent query goes to be, nicely, why aren’t we getting sufficient magnesium? We don’t get it in our meals anymore. It’s been farmed out of the soil and it’s very costly to, to place all of the minerals again within the soil. So I’m, you understand, lots of my focus exterior my on-line dietary complement firm.
It’s a biodynamic natural farm. I put every part into this farm. And if I attempt to eat totally off the farm with hen eggs and all of the greens and fruits, I get all my magnesium deficiency signs again. I’ve been at conferences the place vegans and vegetarians will come as much as me after my magnesium lecture and say, nicely, I’ve twitching and this and that, however I’m consuming 30 to 40 ounces of inexperienced drink a day.
I must be getting sufficient magnesium. And I say, nicely, clearly you’re not. After which they take my liquid magnesium and Critically, they arrive again the following day they usually say, I really feel so significantly better. As a result of they’re principally very wholesome, as a result of they’re not consuming, you understand, in all probability not consuming the seed oils, not consuming straight sugars, and all the remainder of it which can be dangerous for us.
And the magnesium they had been lacking once they take it, it’s like, Oh, okay, my cells actually like that. And you may be doing all the suitable issues and consuming all the suitable meals and consuming rather well. However what you’re saying is you’re nonetheless not getting the correct quantity of magnesium as a result of it doesn’t exist in the best way that our meals is produced and manufactured and raised and grown anymore.
Ruth: So how are you aware, is principally all people magnesium poor? I imply, is that simply type of throughout the board? After which how are you aware how a lot magnesium you have to be taking?
Dr. Dean: This will get into the issue of magnesium compounds versus stabilize the ion of magnesium. However I at all times say that any quantity of magnesium even the worst absorbed like magnesium oxide is a straight on laxative as a result of solely 4 p.c of it’s absorbed.
However individuals really feel higher once they take it. Research have proven that magnesium oxide helps individuals. So in case you have any magnesium in your cupboard, you understand, begin taking a little bit little bit of it. However for those who take an excessive amount of of it, it’ll provide the laxative impact. And lots of medical doctors would say nicely, for those who get the laxative impact, then that’s sufficient, your physique has absorbed sufficient.
That’s not the case. It’s simply obtained run proper by way of your physique and change into a laxative and that was my drawback really. When Random Home requested me to write down my Miracle of Magnesium ebook again in 1999, I ran, I noticed my signs within the analysis I used to be doing. I ran out and obtained a bottle of magnesium as a result of I wished greater than was in my a number of and I instantly obtained the laxative impact with 50 milligrams.
So I needed to go on a ten 12 months search for a corporation and at last, I discovered a chemist who would make a non laxative stabilized ion of magnesium. And it’s the one one which’s out there. And so it’s my mission to let individuals find out about this, however like I mentioned, any magnesium, it’s going to assist. However for those who’re on a half a dozen medication and feeling all of the signs head to foot, you want extra magnesium.
That’s not going to make the laxative impact magnesium compounds. After they get into the bloodstream, they may disassociate. It’s known as. into the 2 components, magnesium and the citrus citric acid, the magnesium and chloride, magnesium and the glycine. And it’s solely separated for a cut up second. And it’s solely in that cut up second the place the ion of magnesium will bounce right into a cell.
And do its work, however you understand, there are trillions of nicely tens of trillions of cells in our physique, so , there’s at all times one thing taking place however we have now gotten to the purpose now with our Continual PTSD as a rustic as a world. The horrible weight loss plan that persons are consuming the large stress The shortage of minerals in our water that we have now to complement.
And what I’ve begun, nicely, it’s been years, however I’ve talked about complete physique meltdown that’s taking place in people the place the thyroid is affected and weakened, particularly in girls after getting pregnant and childbirth, the thyroid could be very a lot. depleted. And what allopathic medication and different medication each do is that they wait until the thyroid is completely tanked they usually give thyroid hormone substitute.
I used to be on armor thyroid and after I made my magnesium product, I made a a number of mineral with all of the stabilized ions. And within the analysis and all I discovered 9 minerals that help thyroid hormone manufacturing. 9 minerals. So I put it in amongst a complete of 12 minerals. Six weeks into taking my very own system and we had been testing it out.
My palms and ft obtained heat and I used to be extra hyper than regular. So I spotted, oh my gosh, my thyroid is kicked in. So I ended my arm or thyroid. Now, that is what the FDA doesn’t like to listen to. And I can let you know hundreds of individuals since then have been in a position to get their thyroid hormone again. And we have now to warn individuals once you take this a number of mineral, you understand, bear in mind that your physique could not want.
As a lot or could not want the thyroid hormone anymore. And that’s fairly highly effective. Whenever you consider the constructing blocks which can be mandatory, the adrenal glands, they rely upon sodium. And what are we telling individuals? Don’t eat salt, rely upon the B nutritional vitamins, they usually’re not in our meals provide both, and vitamin C and magnesium.
Easy constructing blocks. And there’s potassium in there as nicely. Potassium is necessary. Truly with magnesium normally, they assist the absorption of one another. So then you may have the intercourse hormones, you understand, when the thyroid is weakened it drags the adrenals and vice versa. After which it, there’s a drag on the intercourse hormones.
perimenopause. I don’t suppose it’s regular. It’s simply been a reputation that’s been given to girls who I feel have complete physique meltdown they usually’re simply dragging on their thyroid and their adrenals and simply feeling horrible. Yeah. However this, the boron. There’s an entire record of issues. Primary minerals that the intercourse hormones bend on in addition to ldl cholesterol.
Ruth: So, so how does, so magnesium, you’re saying it impacts ldl cholesterol as nicely?
Dr. Dean: Completely. So the several types of magnesium, that is fascinating to me. So are what, which is the kind of magnesium that individuals must be taking if the magnesium is inflicting sub deficiency? Yeah. Sure. So. The advertising and marketing of magnesium prior to now, you understand, 10, what’s it, 15, 20 years?
I feel lots of it’s based mostly on my ebook, the Magnesium Miracle. It’s not this ebook, this can be a shorter type and an replace of all issues magnesium. However for those who take a look at the advertising and marketing of lots of these magnesium compounds, they’ll reference my ebook or me. And what they’ve tried to do is say. Oh, you understand, MagniTML308.
On the entrance of the label 2000 milligrams and also you suppose, Oh, my gosh, 2000 milligrams of magnesium. I’m all set. Flip the label round. Oh, I’ve to take three capsules in an effort to get solely 144 milligrams. Oh, my gosh. In order that’s type of promoting. And Then they do the magnesium L3 in a individuals. They did a research on rats and mentioned it was 7 p.c extra absorbed into the mind than a magnesium citrate based mostly on 7%.
They’ve satisfied the general public that they’re the one magnesium that may get into the mind. Any magnesium in its ionic state, you understand, once I get it disassociated, it can pop into the mind. So that they’ve actually, you understand, and it’s an costly product as nicely. They’ve actually accomplished a disservice to the general public.
It’s closely marketed. It’s it’s comes out of China. We don’t know what’s happening with it. And in some situations, they attempt to say that threonate is like threonine, which is a an amino acid that’s good for the mind, however it’s a threonate, which is a spinoff of vitamin C. So it has nothing to do with something.
And the advertising and marketing of all of the others. Oh, nicely, you may get a magnesium malate and that’ll assist for those who’ve obtained fibromyalgia and the tour a magnesium tour. It’s going to assist the center and this the glycine and glycine magnesium glycinate will do assist the intestine. But when it’s a magnesium deficiency that you simply need to handle, you need the magnesium.
You don’t need the taurate or the malate. And that’s why I’ve the stabilized magnesium ion, 300 milligrams per dose, straight magnesium. Whereas you’re taking A 500 milligram capsule of a magnesium compound. The magnesium half is 50 to 75 milligrams and the remaining is the add on. All the opposite stuff.
Ruth: So, however what you actually have to be centered on. So, I imply, that is all like very technical stuff that we’re speaking about and it’s straightforward to get overwhelmed with all of it. So, how do you method this for those who’re simply eager to. Enhance your well being, proper? How do you method this in a means that makes it actually easy to know, okay, right here’s precisely what I must do, proper?
Simply give me, I hear this from my purchasers on a regular basis. Like, ah, I like listening to about all these things, however then I get overwhelmed and I don’t know find out how to implement it. So how do I’m going, like, what do I do? Simply inform me what to do step-by-step. So what are the steps? Let’s give like three steps.
Dr. Dean: Primary, get hydrated.
Okay. You want water and also you want sea salt in that water. So you’re taking your physique’s weight in kilos, divide that in half, drink that many ounces of water per day. After which every quarter liter put And I’m going so as to add 1 / 4 teaspoon of a very good sea salt. Good sea salt means one thing that has shade in it.
If it’s a white sea salt, it’s been too refined. However you don’t begin with 1 / 4 teaspoon. Simply begin with a pinch. And also you’ll get, it’ll style candy to you. It’ll style so significantly better than. Then water out of the faucet and water out of the faucet. It’s been filtered. It’s been chlorinated, perhaps Florida.
Florida. So we do need you to have non chlorine, non fluoride waters as a lot as potential. So you set within the sea salt, primary, hydration with sea salt. And quantity two, simply begin taking some magnesium. Like I mentioned, all people’s obtained magnesium of their cabinet. I assure you, however you’ve in all probability put it apart due to the laxative impact.
If it’s a powder, put it in, in your sea salt water. After which sip that by way of the day so that you simply’re not simply taking one, one harsh dose like that may overwhelm your self and land in your gut. That’s a laxative of the liquid powders, even capsules, Ruth, individuals may take a magnesium capsule. and put that in water and attempt to dissolve it and drink that by way of the day.
I do know there’ll be binders and fillers in there, however you’re swallowing it anyway. And the third factor can be to come up with my ebook. It’s a really it’s an easy to learn, overview of magnesium, which is important for 80 p.c of recognized metabolic capabilities. After which on the finish of it, it’s possible you’ll resolve that, nicely, perhaps I ought to do this.
And as soon as individuals strive my Pico meter magnesium, they don’t look again. And that’s what you need from vitamins. You need to really feel them work. My a number of minerals introduced my thyroid again and did an entire bunch of different issues. And my magnesium, it took away my coronary heart palpitations and a dozen different signs. So, it’s And what’s it?
The proof is within the pudding. Yeah. Effectively, I imply, that makes it really feel rather a lot easier and undoubtedly much more doable. Eat the water, add the salt, which is in, which is completely reverse of what individuals inform us. Then take the magnesium, no matter magnesium you may have, simply. Begin taking extra magnesium and getting extra magnesium.
Ruth: It’s very attention-grabbing. I haven’t heard that prefer to unfold it all through the day and be consuming it all through the day. So I actually like that. After which undoubtedly try your ebook. We’ll make certain so as to add the hyperlink to your ebook in our present notes. So for those who’re listening to this, then you may simply try the present notes and we will, and yow will discover the ebook and to learn extra Carolyn, thanks a lot.
